Nintendo Switch 2 - thread ufficiale

[Turrican3]

That physical versions of Nintendo Switch 2 Edition games will include the original Nintendo Switch game and its upgrade pack all on the same game card (i.e. they are exclusively Nintendo Switch 2 game cards, with no download code). Alternatively, some publishers may release Nintendo Switch 2 Edition games as download codes in physical packaging, with no game card.

https://www.vooks.net/nintendo-confirms-no-download-codes-needed-for-physical-switch-2-edition-games/

La versione odierna della questione "Nintendo Switch 2 Edition" prevede non solo che stia tutto nella cartuccia (gioco + aggiornamenti) senza alcun download richiesto MA anche che si tratti di cartucce "native" Switch 2.

Vediamo cosa dichiarano domani.

[Buds95]

L'unica spiegazione compatibile con tutto quel che è stato detto mi pare sia che la cartuccia sia il gioco Switch (e quindi compatibile con quest'ultima?) con però anche il pacchetto di upgrade per Switch 2 che si installa solo qualora la cartuccia sia effettivamente inserita lì. A naso mi pare torni tutto.

[SilentBobZ]

Però cazzo è un Big Improvement



E se nel primo ringraziarono con "THX2ALLGAMEFANS" ....



.... fonti confermate solo da me annunciano un nuovo ringraziamento per il nuovo pad :
"MANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYMANYTHX2ALLCRAZYGAMEFANS"

[Turrican3]

With all of these specifications in mind, I have to say that there's nothing from last week's Nintendo Direct or the hands-on demos in the Paris and New York events that look at all surprising. Everything seems to slot in perfectly with expectations, barring a conspicuous lack of DLSS-supported games. Way back when, Activision's Bobby Kotick described the machine as offering PS4 class power and by and large, that's in the ballpark of what the third-party demos revealed. Elden Ring runs at 1080p at 30fps or thereabouts on PS4, and that's what we saw with Switch 2 in last week's Direct. Despite some briefing from Sega that Yakuza Zero runs at 4K60, all the gameplay assets we've seen look like the same 1080p60 as PS4. It's the same with Final Fantasy 7 Remake: true, Switch 2 gets the Intergrade version but again, it's running at 1080p and wobbly frame-pacing apart, runs at 30fps.

Codice Seleziona Espandi

                    Nvidia T234         Nvidia T239 (Switch 2)                  Nvidia RTX 2050 4GB
CPU Architecture    12x ARM A78AE       8x ARM A78C                             -
CPU Clocks          Max 1.43GHz         998MHz (docked), 1101MHz (mobile)*      -
GPU Architecture    Ampere              Ampere                                  Ampere
CUDA Cores          2048                1536                                    2048
GPU Clocks          Circa 1GHz          1GHz (docked), 561MHz (mobile)*         Circa 1.235GHz
Memory/Interface    256-bit/LPDDR5      128-bit/LPDDR5                          64-bit/GDDR6
Memory Bandwidth    204GB/s             102GB/s (docked), 68GB/s (mobile)*      96GB/s
   
* While eminently plausible, we've not managed to independently verify these spec points. We've included T234 here as the closest mobile component to the Switch 2 processor, while the laptop RTX 2050 is the closest consumer-level GPU to the Switch 2 graphics component.

However, similar to the way the original Switch offered GPU performance seemingly in the Xbox 360/Wii U class, we should expect more - simply by virtue of the fact that although the RTX 30-series Ampere architecture is now getting on for five years old, it supports all the modern features a developer would want: hardware-accelerated ray tracing, mesh shaders and machine learning for DLSS upscaling, just for starters. With 256GB of UFS storage backed by the file decompression hardware, developers should have lightning-fast access to data in a way that the PS4 never had. Cyberpunk 2077 will be an interesting exercise in seeing how Switch 2 handles demanding titles, but more than that, I can't wait to see Star Wars Outlaws - where the footage shown in last week's Direct looked perhaps too good to be true. Cyberpunk is a good litmus test, but remember it runs on PS4 and runs well on Steam Deck. Star Wars Outlaws is current-gen only and the game is simply 'too big' for the Deck.

We've been asked whether Switch 2 is a 'Steam Deck killer' and while we'll only be able to make some kind of definitive analysis closer to review time, our answer for now is both yes and no. More specifically, our contention right now is that the docked Switch 2 delivers more than the Deck - but the jury is out on the mobile experience. Looking at third party games like Elden Ring and Final Fantasy 7, it's hard to believe that the Deck could deliver native 1080p with the same features and performance Switch 2 is delivering.

However, mobile play may be another story. The Valve machine, running fully unlocked, has a 1.6GHz GPU and a 2.4GHz to 3.5GHz CPU, and I've seen it consuming up to 28W of power. Meanwhile, Switch 2 has a mooted 561MHz GPU clock and a 1.1GHz CPU, and based on a 20Wh battery with a minimum two hours battery life, it'll be sipping a maximum 10W of power during play - almost one third of Steam Deck's consumption. No matter how much more efficient the Switch 2 architecture may (or may not!) be, it's hard to believe that the Nintendo machine in handheld mode can best the Deck in terms of raw horsepower. However, Nintendo's machine has an ace in the hole: the advantages of a bespoke development and a to-the-metal graphics API. That said, let's just say that I really, really want to see Star Wars Outlaws running on Switch 2. Getting that running to the standard seen in the Direct will be a challenge for docked play, let alone the more resource-constrained mobile mode.

Right now though, I'm wondering what has happened to Nvidia DLSS - conspicuously absent in the form we recognise within last week's Nintendo Direct (with the possible exception of Hitman: World of Assassination - we've asked IO Interactive to confirm). In this week's DF Direct, the number one question asked was what form - or version - of DLSS Nintendo Switch 2 supports. That's difficult to ascertain with little actual evidence it's in use in the games we saw, but the bottom line is this: a GPU using the Ampere architecture will have the requisite complement of tensor cores used to run ML workloads. There's nothing stopping it running any version of DLSS from 2.0 upwards - even DLSS 4's transformer model. However, DLSS is not a free lunch - it has a computational cost. It's not so much if Switch 2 can run DLSS 4, it's more like whether it is too expensive to do so and that's a factor of how capable the GPU is.

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2025-switch-2-the-tech-specs-that-nintendo-and-nvidia-are-not-sharing

Estratto da articolo+video Digital Foundry sulle specifiche di Switch 2.

In sintesi estrema:

- specifiche plausibili ma da verificare
- come HW saremmo dalle parti di PS4 per quel che concerne il software mostrato, ma con qualche sorpresa che potrebbe arrivare in futuro dall'avere una GPU tutto sommato moderna in termini di funzioni supportate
- DLSS non pervenuto al momento
- dubitano possa comportarsi meglio di Steam Deck in modalità portatile per via dei consumi (28W vs 10W), ma neppure lo escludono categoricamente

[Turrican3]

A naso mi pare torni tutto.

Non con la versione diffusa oggi, visto che cita esplicitamente "cartuccia Switch 2".

Tocca aspettare l'aggiornamento (non del gioco )

Però cazzo è un Big Improvement

Ayeah!

[Joe]

Meno male che il vecchio Pro Controller sarà compatibile. Speriamo che duri ancora un po' di anni! 

[Turrican3]

https://x.com/6d6f636869/status/1910267760967606531

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-10/nintendo-s-pivotal-switch-2-launch-boosted-by-trump-tariff-pause

La pianificazione della produzione Nintendo in funzione anti-dazi USA: praticamente la quasi totalità delle macchine prodotte in Vietnam è adesso destinata proprio agli Stati Uniti e, almeno per i prossimi tre mesi, dovrebbe essere soggetta ai dazi limitati al 10% dopo la sospensione decisa dal presidente Trump.

EDIT purtroppo l'articolo non si può ripescare, ma Insider-Gaming riporta dalla medesima fonte che anche con i dazi al 10% è plausibile Switch 2 sia venduta in leggero sottocosto:

We believe the Switch 2's bill of materials is around $400, meaning Nintendo would still be selling consoles at a loss in the US with the 10% tariff — but the loss would be something Nintendo would be able to absorb.

Secondo un altro analista invece qualora venisse ripristinato il 46% il prezzo potrebbe sensibilmente aumentare:

If the tariffs stay at 10%, Nintendo probably keeps pricing at $450 and just takes the hit on margin.
At 46% Vietnam tariffs, I expected them to raise by $50 to $100.

[SilentBobZ]

Dallo storico Amazon Europeo , l'unico ribasso di 10 € sul bundle NS2+MKW è dai francesi. Io resto pessimista e lubrifico per bene il KuKulo.

[Blasor]

L'unica spiegazione compatibile con tutto quel che è stato detto mi pare sia che la cartuccia sia il gioco Switch (e quindi compatibile con quest'ultima?) con però anche il pacchetto di upgrade per Switch 2 che si installa solo qualora la cartuccia sia effettivamente inserita lì. A naso mi pare torni tutto.

Il mio timore è che stia tutto nella cartuccia ma la Edition vada comunque attivata online. E' il punto resta poco chiaro, l'assenza di qualsivoglia attivazione online per le retail.

[Bluforce]

La presenza di due soli tagli di memoria per le card non sarà d'aiuto. 7GB e 64GB, così ho letto.

Forse era meglio aggiungerne qualcuna intermedia.

[Turrican3]

Se confermano mi pare una mezza follia.

Ma potrebbe essere l'ennesima spiegazione dell'esistenza delle Game-Key cards.

[Bluforce]

Qui il link che riferisce quanto da me scritto:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rumor-nintendo-switch-2-game-cards-only-available-in-2-sizes-with-nothing-in-between-7gb-64-gb.1159542/

[Turrican3]

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Sounds like my grandmother. She either makes spaghetti and one meatball or spaghetti and 2000 meatballs.



^^ sicuramente utente italiano o del nostro centro-sud

[SilentBobZ]

39 € su Amazon .................... regalata !!!!!!!!!!!

[Buds95]

Pare sia in 640p
Però fa da oggetto di design quindi probabilmente si prende lo stesso (tanto chi la userà mai )