Topic unico - rumours & speculations nextgen ( PS4 / WiiU / Xbox One )

[Rh_negativo]

'nsomma.
A me sembra che in parecchi si siano lamentati della MS post-kinect.
Quella che investe su star wars kinect, fa diventare fable journey su binari, fa scappare bungie/moulinex/bizzare/bioware, boccia proposte core di rare a nastro per fargli fare kinanimals, non lancia un ip nuovo da anni, campa su TRE brand con uscite quasi annuali e semplicemente abbandona la console nel suo ultimo anno di vita :/

Che al lancio di Durango ci sarà da giocare per tutti i gusti e che vedremo nuove IP core AAA sono sicurissimo
È sul medio/lungo periodo che mi fido poco...

[Turrican3]

'nsomma.
A me sembra che in parecchi si siano lamentati della MS post-kinect.

Ma il giocatore medio (da forum) è un incontentabile per natura. Reggie docet.

Tuttavia anche nel dopo-Kinect seppur con una MS defilata rispetto ai primi anni su 360 si è potuto continuare a giocare alla stragrande.
Per me è questo che conta in ultima analisi.

Ad oggi - fermo restando che quanto mi appresto a dire vale fino a un certo punto, visto che nemmeno l'han presentata una delle due - è facile vedere in Sony la MS degli esordi, e in MS la parte probabilmente peggiore della Nintendo pro-casual.

Però se con X720 decidono di puntare solo sull'utenza Kinect per me si suicidano.

[Rh_negativo]

SOLO sull'utenza casual non credo (non POSSONO).
ma mi aspetto "qualcosa" di pensato per "fare scena" con i casual (come il kinect appunto).
Per ora se confermano always online, no retro, prezzo elevato l'utenza la stai "indispettendo" :/

[Bluforce]

Più che altro è il silenzio a fare impressione.

Secondo me la presentazione a marzo era programmata sul serio, e l'anticipo di Sony gli ha giocato un brutto scherzo.

Staranno revisionando qualcosina qui e lì.

[Mystic]

la nuova xbox sarà presentata il 21.05

ciaoz

[Turrican3]

E' ancora un rumour, seppur attendibile (pare)

[Mystic]

E' ancora un rumour, seppur attendibile (pare)

fonti sfizzere me lo danno per certo 

[Turrican3]

Se ci sono di mezzo le marmotte allora cambia tutto.

[Turrican3]

Microsoft is working hard in its new strategy for the next years. The company wants to expand its Xbox brand with two new Xbox. One would be next-gen, the other one would be a new redesign for Xbox 360. Take in mind the Wii Mini, MS would like to offer something similar to Nintendo. This cheap model would be focused as a set top box product, although you will be able to load games too, but the games should be load directly from the HDD. This Xbox wouldn’t have disc drive.

We have received new information about the latest Xbox Roadmap. Our source unveils new details for Durango, Xbox mini and the Microsoft strategy; moreover we don’t forget Kinect 2.0.

Xbox Mini

    The “Xbox Mini” is not a 360 add-on, it is a stand alone product that contains Xbox 360 functions for gaming, and alone it is meant to compete with Apple TV. Since it is likely it will not have a disc drive, it is being designed with “always online” in mind, and with internet being required for Live functions. Xbox 360 Games can be played on it by purchasing Games on Demand on Xbox Live (for new purchases) or if already purchased, simply download it. This also applies to music and movies. To further clarify, the Durango will also have these (TV) functions, just with next-genration gaming hardware instead of Xbox 360 at a higher price.

    When used with Durango, it offers connectivity with it for backwards compatibility with both disc based and On Demand games, and it’s no more different than what Sony will be doing with Gaikai for playing PS3 games on PS4, only with Xbox it will be done locally and not through the cloud. You can control the Xbox Mini under a single interface and not have to worry about switching between devices in a single display input.

    These connectivity functions cannot work with existing Xbox 360 units due to the difference in external interface. The Xbox Mini was designed for this along side Durango.

Microsoft expands its Xbox brand

    Getting to the point there are going to be two console as part of the redesigned “Xbox Line” of products. A repackaged and reoriented Xbox 360 unit and the new “Durango” gaming console, both designed to compete with more than Sony in gaming, but against Apple as well.

    When the Durango (game machine) launches, it will not support backwards compatibility for 360 games out of the box. Instead, this functionality will come from the other unit that will be networked with the Durango to provide this (not unlike the DVD add-on for the original Xbox).

    The purpose of the smaller Xbox unit is to compete with Apple TV, but also provides XBLA and 360 game support which will give it an edge over Apple TV. The rumors of “always online required” comes from the smaller Xbox unit which may not have a disc drive and like Apple TV it would require a network connection and internet to provide any real functionality. It may be possible they will design both consoles to be stackable.

    Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games. Putting in an Xbox 360 disc into Durango will prompt the user to attach the supporting device that is sold separately. By separating the two devices and their functions it will ensure price competitiveness for both pieces of hardware. Microsoft’s delay in announcing these products from April goes more inline with not having a physical set of devices to show (among specification updates), which should be ready by May or June when this information is officially released.

    The price goal of the smaller Xbox is $149 or lower and it is likely to not have a disc drive and would require a network connection. Durango will be priced competitively according to PS4′s price.

Kinect 2.0

    A different department within Xbox handles Kinect hardware and software. The focus was more on developing and networking both consoles with Kinect more of an after thought at that point, considering dealing with it would be less of an issue even with hardware changes to the main console hardware. Kinect isn’t the primary focus.

    The development kits required several pieces of hardware as to combine all “potential” hardware which may or may not be required to work with each other, which also includes the potential for any or all devices to required a network connection, which is where most of the “required” rumors are coming from.

Nuovi rumour da VGleaks sul successore di Xbox360 e in generale sulla strategia di MS:

http://www.vgleaks.com/microsoft-xbox-roadmap-2013/

In sintesi:
- nuovo redesign del 360 in arrivo per contrastare AppleTV, "always online" in quanto privo di lettore ottico (solo giochi scaricati dal Live Marketplace)
- X720 retrocompatibile attraverso acquisto di apposito add-on
- always online confermato per X720 ma non sarebbe obbligatorio per giocare, nè bloccherebbe l'usato
- Kinect (se ho ben inteso) non obbligatorio


Inoltre dopo il pasticcio su Twitter dei giorni scorsi riguardo l'always online presunto di Xbox "next", Adam Orth lascia Microsoft:

https://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/04/10/following-twitter-tirade_2c00_-microsoft-designer-adam-orth-resigns.aspx

[SilentBobZ]

[Turrican3]

Non so chi sia la prima a sinistra (probabilmente un'infiltrata, Samsung? Apple?) ma è abbastanza evidente che a seguire abbiamo PS4, X720 e WiiU.

[Bluforce]

21 maggio, ore 19:00.

Streaming disponibile.

Presentazione nuovo Xbox.

[Turrican3]

Come per le altre due che l'han preceduta, a questo punto i tempi sono decisamente maturi per l'apertura del thread dedicato alla nuova macchina di Microsoft. ;)

(per adesso però lascio ancora un po' aperto questo thread)

[Bluforce]

Qua ci sono rumor:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=547072

(EDIT by Turry: spostato da altro thread, si riferisce a Xbox nextgen)

[Bluforce]

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